If we colonize many star-systems, there would be a great diversity of 'humans'. Their divergence would be inevitable as colonies are established and new technologies are invented. Physical and mental differences might stem from technological modification, evolutionary adaptations to alien worlds over vast periods of time, hybrids of our Earth-animals or even hybrids of homo sapiens sapiens and any aliens we encounter (barring any obvious biochemical differences of course). And that isn't even considering the virtual entities and AI's we'll have made. Point is, there won't be a homo sapiens sapiens anymore - we would have been bred out long ago. Instead, a menagerie of our descendants and modified cousins will inherit the stars. If we ever get there and somehow establish a star-civilization of any appreciable size
Yeah, me too.
It depends what Ring-formation theory you believe and how it is interpreted. The most commonly-held theory is that of the ring being the result of a moon disintegrating during the Late Heavy Bombardment about 4 billion years ago. This moon was thought to be a Mimas-sized planetoid about 800km in diameter, but more recent theories suggest it could have been a Titan-like satellite.
Right, evolution always results in the destruction of the evolving species. Even if we unfortunately always remain on Earth, evolution into a new species is inevitable. Studies have even shown that evolution is occurring faster now than it did in the past. Something I think about with bemusement is how the differing gravity would cause humans to evolve differently on different worlds. Not only that, but staying in space for any extended period where gravity is vastly different from what it is on Earth would require extensive reconditioning for those humans to be able to live on Earth again!If we colonize many star-systems, there would be a great diversity of 'humans'. Their divergence would be inevitable as colonies are established and new technologies are invented. Physical and mental differences might stem from technological modification, evolutionary adaptations to alien worlds over vast periods of time, hybrids of our Earth-animals or even hybrids of homo sapiens sapiens and any aliens we encounter (barring any obvious biochemical differences of course). And that isn't even considering the virtual entities and AI's we'll have made. Point is, there won't be a homo sapiens sapiens anymore - we would have been bred out long ago. Instead, a menagerie of our descendants and modified cousins will inherit the stars. If we ever get there and somehow establish a star-civilization of any appreciable size.
Yeah, me too.
It depends what Ring-formation theory you believe and how it is interpreted. The most commonly-held theory is that of the ring being the result of a moon disintegrating during the Late Heavy Bombardment about 4 billion years ago. This moon was thought to be a Mimas-sized planetoid about 800km in diameter, but more recent theories suggest it could have been a Titan-like satellite.
Recently though, data received by the Cassini probe tell us that a majority of Saturn's rings are quite young - a mere 100 million years old, and have been created and maintained by micrometeorite, comet and icy-moon detritus sucked in by magnetic flux in Saturn's radiation fields.
I suspect that "biosignature" would be a "may have been cause by life". So, if it's inside our solar system, we might have ways to verify. Otherwise, such claims would likely be unverified, or unverifiable, for a very long time. Anyway, I look forward to see data gathered on the atmospheres of exoplanets which seems doable in the coming decades.
I see that water has been detected in the atmosphere of 51 Pegasi B.... but is that a uninhabitable planet because it's a gas giant?I suspect that "biosignature" would be a "may have been cause by life". So, if it's inside our solar system, we might have ways to verify. Otherwise, such claims would likely be unverified, or unverifiable, for a very long time. Anyway, I look forward to see data gathered on the atmospheres of exoplanets which seems doable in the coming decades.
In most cases, but exotic life could exist without it. We would however have some difficulty recognizing it though, so yes, lets just stick to what we think is more likely. H2O thalassogen solvent-based life
Water has been detected in the atmospheres of a lot of planets with our current detection methods. These exoworlds range from Superjovian hot-gas giants to scalding superearths. None of them are very likely to host Earth-like life beyond extremophiles. The same goes for Tau Ceti e (Tau Ceti f only recently migrated into it's current orbit less then a billion years ago). While this exoplanet resides in a scientifically interesting system, it's characteristics make it an unlikely abode for life of any sort. Maybe we could terraform it in the future, but it would require a lot of effort on our part, if we ever go there.I see that water has been detected in the atmosphere of 51 Pegasi B.... but is that a uninhabitable planet because it's a gas giant?
I also read somewhere that water has been detected in the Trappist-1 system exoplanets' atmospheres?
To be honest I'm most excited about the Tau Ceti system right now, it has a sunlike star and earthlike exoplanets (two of them in the habitable zone!) I think we should put some focus there.
If life could evolve to exist and float permanently in the atmosphere of a relatively calm gas giant, then there's a slim chance life might exist [s]on[/s] [s]in[/s] [s]around[/s] gas giants.I see that water has been detected in the atmosphere of 51 Pegasi B.... but is that a uninhabitable planet because it's a gas giant?I suspect that "biosignature" would be a "may have been cause by life". So, if it's inside our solar system, we might have ways to verify. Otherwise, such claims would likely be unverified, or unverifiable, for a very long time. Anyway, I look forward to see data gathered on the atmospheres of exoplanets which seems doable in the coming decades.
I also read somewhere that water has been detected in the Trappist-1 system exoplanets' atmospheres?
To be honest I'm most excited about the Tau Ceti system right now, it has a sunlike star and earthlike exoplanets (two of them in the habitable zone!) I think we should put some focus there.
Sagan hypothesised the existence of floaters, sinkers and hunters in such atmospheres, possibly reaching sizes in the kilometers.
What technology level were these peoples at? Were they roughly equivalent to the Inuits?
Climate seems likely. My knowledge of this comes from the work of Hans Rosling when he used these colonies as an example of a dogmatic society's issues with adaptation. So yes, the climate cooled a little, rendering the colonist's original agricultural and hunting techniques ineffective at best. For religious reasons, they refused to use the native Inuit's methods of survival because it was too pagan. It is also possible they became inbred due to a smaller population. Coupled with a lack of political interest in the region, and they died out. As I recall, the last record of those colonies was a wedding taking place in Hvalsey. Rosling used them to illustrate that we as a society should be ready to change our lifestyles to further our survival should the need arise (as it is now with climate change).
What was their political system? Didn't the Vikings have some kind of navigational stone they used during their voyages? I had read they made it to North America- Labrador and possibly as far south as Cape Cod? There were even some Viking artifacts found in Minnesota!What technology level were these peoples at? Were they roughly equivalent to the Inuits?
Also, did you happen study the Norse colonization of the southern coasts of Greenland? The behavior of the pioneering Scandinavians there was a poignant reminder of the dangers of non-adaptation to a changing environment, together with rigid adherence to a political system unsuited to the new land.