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21 May 2017 13:14

So what is the amount the funding goal has to reach for Vlad to hire another developer?
The exact value is somewhere between Graham's Number and infinity. (It doesn't seem like Vlad's going to hire another developer any time soon.)
 
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23 May 2017 00:49

In the in-game editor, is there a way for automatically calculating length of orbit (like 1-year) based on semimajor-axis and radius of black hole given its mass? Like you could click a button that says 'Calculate' and it sets the expected parameters. Also hide luminosity for non-stars, etc.
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26 May 2017 01:27

Will Gaia star catalogue be included? 1 BLN stars guys @@ 1 BLN
 
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26 May 2017 01:32

Gaia catalogue has distance data for only 2 million stars which is essential.
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26 May 2017 04:07

Gaia catalogue has distance data for only 2 million stars which is essential.
The Gaia catalogue "per se" has not been released with the parallax measurements yet. But the first release, Gaia's DR1, has been integrated with the Hipparcos catalogue (the one that has 2 million stars) to make the parallaxes of Hipparcos more accurate.

In reality the GAIA catalogue would have parallaxes for more than 1.400.000.000 of stars indeed. You just have to wait a few years. Integrating all of that in SE would be trully awesome indeed, I don't think the engine is prepared for this amount of data but Vladimir (A.K.A the creator of the SE universe) said a few times in the old forum that the changes in the core of the engine that he has made will probably allow for this some time soon.
 
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27 May 2017 16:21

It appears that the accretion disks around supermassive black holes rotate much faster than the speed of light. Maybe this is just the result of scaling up from normal sized black holes?
 
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27 May 2017 16:23

I mean, it obviously needs to be fixed - I'm just not sure why they would be this way.
 
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27 May 2017 16:57

I just realized that supermassive black hole size in SE is tied to how large their galaxy is, not their real-life estimated size. This has kind of soured my black hole-gazing experience.
 
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27 May 2017 20:03

It appears that the accretion disks around supermassive black holes rotate much faster than the speed of light. 
I've looked at a few and it doesn't appear that way to me.  Can you post an example?
 
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27 May 2017 20:33

Left picture has been drastically compressed in paint.jpg, but hopefully it's somewhat accurate enough to depict what I mean.
Granules are typically very small compared to the size of the sun, so shouldn't the surface smooth out like left when at such a distance? Sunspots are also typically not uniform across the surface and are varying in shape and size. 

Or is the left picture not accurate at all?
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27 May 2017 21:12

The left image is pretty accurate. Sunspots form in regions on the sun called "active regions." These storms usually migrate towards the equator of the star. There can be many storms (like 10) on the sun at any given point in time and none at other times. Active regions normally have 2 sunspots, but some can have more. SE is still a WIP. The star surfaces haven't been updated for a while and are by no means realistic. But more realistic star surfaces are definitely planned for the future.
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28 May 2017 03:06

It appears that the accretion disks around supermassive black holes rotate much faster than the speed of light. 
I've looked at a few and it doesn't appear that way to me.  Can you post an example?
Looked at both Sagittarius and the central black hole of IC 1101, which I think is the largest one in SE (and whose disk is around a light-year across). i think the speed of the latter is over 20 times c, just by eyeballing.
 
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28 May 2017 03:39

It appears that the accretion disks around supermassive black holes rotate much faster than the speed of light. 
I've looked at a few and it doesn't appear that way to me.  Can you post an example?
Looked at both Sagittarius and the central black hole of IC 1101, which I think is the largest one in SE (and whose disk is around a light-year across). i think the speed of the latter is over 20 times c, just by eyeballing.
The way I tried to find out for myself was to put the camera in airplane mode, and then try to match the speed you see on the animated details of the AD, while simultaneously trying to maintain a constant speed and distance from the BH as close to it as possible. Then check your speed readings to see if c > 1. My computer wasnt the most ideal for this maneuver, so maybe someone with a faster computer and a better observant eye can try. :)
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28 May 2017 04:05

I've looked at a few and it doesn't appear that way to me.  Can you post an example?
Looked at both Sagittarius and the central black hole of IC 1101, which I think is the largest one in SE (and whose disk is around a light-year across). i think the speed of the latter is over 20 times c, just by eyeballing.
The way I tried to find out for myself was to put the camera in airplane mode, and then try to match the speed you see on the animated details of the AD, while simultaneously trying to maintain a constant speed and distance from the BH as close to it as possible. Then check your speed readings to see if c > 1. My computer wasnt the most ideal for this maneuver, so maybe someone with a faster computer and a better observant eye can try. :)
Just speed up time and watch from a distance, no?
 
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28 May 2017 05:04

Looked at both Sagittarius and the central black hole of IC 1101, which I think is the largest one in SE (and whose disk is around a light-year across). i think the speed of the latter is over 20 times c, just by eyeballing.
Ok, I checked and calculated directly rather than eyeballing, and you're right, it is a few times faster than c for the middle and outer parts of the disk.

The problem is that the current implementation of accretion disks is limited to rigid rotation (and a shrinking), so all parts of it rotate with the same angular velocity.  The rotation rate itself is actually calculated correctly, but for the inner part of the disk very close to the hole (if you apply it there for SgrA*, for instance, it is less than c and about the correct velocity from Kepler's Laws).  So naturally the outer parts having the same angular velocity have faster linear speeds, and can exceed the speed of light.  

The only way to fix this to be more realistic is to change way disks are rendered in such a way that allows them to be sheared.

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