Work progress 0.990

Macronicus · 28 Feb 2019 21:37

They may be as large as you want, but resolution / level of detail will be fixed anyway.

You mean there will be nebulas that's just as big as the Tarantula Nebula?

-eyasluna · 28 Feb 2019 23:03

[quote="SpaceEngineer"]They may be as large as you want, but resolution / level of detail will be fixed anyway.[/quote]

Oh that's great news! I was stuck thinking they would be small with a fixed size

01 Mar 2019 06:12

Large nebulae have other problem - blending with the galaxy. There is simply no blending, nebula just rendered on top of the galaxy. So if you try to look on it through the galaxy dust, the result will be incorrect:

This is not so noticeable on small nebulae. Similar problem exist with stars: they are rendered on top of galaxy and nebulae. It is noticeable on distant bright supergiants, which must be affected by dust absorption. And also very noticeable on all stars visible inside and behind a dusty nebula: dust does not absorb star light. This problem is very complex to solve.

Solaris_ · 01 Mar 2019 06:45

Steam,emmmmm will there be a off-line mode in the paid version? My computer can't connect to internet all the time.

Solaris_ · 01 Mar 2019 06:52

Large nebulae have other problem - blending with the galaxy. There is simply no blending, nebula just rendered on top of the galaxy. So if you try to look on it through the galaxy dust, the result will be incorrect:

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This is not so noticeable on small nebulae. Similar problem exist with stars: they are rendered on top of galaxy and nebulae. It is noticeable on distant bright supergiants, which must be affected by dust absorption. And also very noticeable on all stars visible inside and behind a dusty nebula: dust does not absorb star light. This problem is very complex to solve.

Is that because of the nebula and the galaxy are rendered separately? Maybe it would be better to turn a nebula into a blurred 2D sprite when it's far away from the camera?

Macronicus · 01 Mar 2019 08:17

Large nebulae have other problem - blending with the galaxy. There is simply no blending, nebula just rendered on top of the galaxy. So if you try to look on it through the galaxy dust, the result will be incorrect:

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This is not so noticeable on small nebulae. Similar problem exist with stars: they are rendered on top of galaxy and nebulae. It is noticeable on distant bright supergiants, which must be affected by dust absorption. And also very noticeable on all stars visible inside and behind a dusty nebula: dust does not absorb star light. This problem is very complex to solve.

Well atleast we have giant nebulas now

YouTube · 01 Mar 2019 10:06

Steam,emmmmm will there be a off-line mode in the paid version? My computer can't connect to internet all the time.

Yes, Steam has an offline mode.

Sion · 01 Mar 2019 11:22

Maybe just have it fade quicker than the Galaxy itself?

-eyasluna · 01 Mar 2019 16:57

So im guessing the overly large nebula will act like ngc 604 in a way? It too can be seen from far out of its galaxy and through dustbands.

YouTube · 01 Mar 2019 22:39

It too can be seen from far out of its galaxy and through dustbands.

No, it cannot be seen through dust any more than any other nebula can.

Ive been wondering ever since the nebula have become ray-marched, what is the largest they can get? Im not talking Tarantula nebula size but most ive seen from harbingerdawns streams is they're mostly small in regards to some real nebula.

They are generated in a large range of sizes. Some are only a few light-years across, while some are huge (I've seen at least one nebula that's 150 light-years wide, which would make it one of the largest nebulae in the galaxy).

In real life, nebulae that are hundreds of light-years wide (or more) are very uncommon, no more than a few per galaxy in most cases.

-eyasluna · 01 Mar 2019 23:25

I guess im mistaken, but anyways that's great news about the nebulae, as SpaceEngineer said they can be as large as WE want, I thought he was only indicating that their size could be changed through the editor, which im guessing is also an option? Thanks.

02 Mar 2019 06:29

they can be as large as WE want

SE is a scientifically accurate simulator, it doesn't care what you want, it tries to represent the Universe as it is

longname · 02 Mar 2019 08:54

Asking a question about nebulae: can circumstellar disks appear around procedural stars now?
No, they are not finished yet. Circumstellar disks and animated supernovae were experimental features, not finished ones, and they won't be finished for this release (at the very least, supernovae won't).
When 0.990 rolls around, will we be able to turn on experimental features like animated nebula and circumstellar disks?

Since no-one seems to have replied, may I ask this again?

Stellarator · 02 Mar 2019 18:05

they can be as large as WE want
SE is a scientifically accurate simulator, it doesn't care what you want, it tries to represent the Universe as it is

Sick burn

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-eyasluna · 02 Mar 2019 19:35

[quote="SpaceEngineer"][quote="-eyasluna"][post]27305[/post] they can be as large as WE want[/quote]
SE is a scientifically accurate simulator, it doesn't care what you want, it tries to represent the Universe as it is

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I thought you meant they could only be large using the editor, and that the nebula I had seen in harbingerdawn's streams were the only size range for them. Again my mistake but that is a great way of putting SpaceEngine into perspective

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