Help with creating Mods and Addons

Mr. Abner · 16 Jul 2019 02:00

Hi,
I've shared a few mods recently of real spacecrafts (Chandra Xray Observatory, TESS, Curiosity, and the ISS)
In the post of the ISS Schubatamann draw my attention to an old blog news http://spaceengine.org/news/blog170516/ where Space Engineer described (though I didn't understand well) new kinds of objects (Structure, Artifact, Object and Spacecraft) with codes such as this one:
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Structure “Mariner base”
[color=#60b0d0][size=85][font=monospace]{[/font][/size][/color]

[color=#60b0d0][size=85][font=monospace]Model          “spacecraft/MarsBase/MarsBase.sss”
ParentBody     “Mars”
TidalLocked     true // up vector automatically derived from FixedPos coordinates
RotationOffset  96 // free parameter – orientation azimuth
FixedPosPolar  (99.512224 -6.943654 3399.9) // longitude, latitude and distance from the parent planet center[/font][/size][/color]
}
I've been searching around some docs or info here and in the manual, but couldn't find any. Can someone explain how to use this? That would come in handy to put the ISS on a fixed orbit.
Thanks to anyone who could help.

I haven't tried myself (yet), but I believe you save that script with a .sc extension, and put it in the addons/catalogs/planets/ folder (create it if necessary). Check the Creating a Planet section in the SE manual for more details.

astroclu · 16 Jul 2019 10:19

Ok, I'm gonna try to make something like this, and I'll let you know what results I get.
I believe that I understand now the idea of this (thanks to your comment Mr Abner), you make a planet which has a different type or class. Structure if I understand well should be fixed over the surface with a latitude, longitude and altitude and tidally locked so it won't be rotating. A spacecraft should instead have orbital parameters to define its orbit such a semi major axis, excentricity, inclination, argument of periastron, longitu of ascending node and mean anomaly (except for geostationary satellite which would be fixed over a latitude and longitude but much higher than the surface).
What I don't know is what would an artifact or object do? Is an artifact at a fixed postion in space, not orbiting anything? And object?
I'll try this afternoon to make that script with orbital parameters of the ISS (as a spacecraft) and its model and will get back to you.

Klud · 16 Jul 2019 16:59

Klud what graphic card have you? Mine is gtx 1060 3gb

My vcard - GTX770. You can try my .bin, maybe it will work.
Link

astroclu · 16 Jul 2019 17:11

Hi,
I've shared a few mods recently of real spacecrafts (Chandra Xray Observatory, TESS, Curiosity, and the ISS)
In the post of the ISS Schubatamann draw my attention to an old blog news http://spaceengine.org/news/blog170516/ where Space Engineer described (though I didn't understand well) new kinds of objects (Structure, Artifact, Object and Spacecraft) with codes such as this one:
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Structure “Mariner base”
[color=#60b0d0][size=85][font=monospace]{[/font][/size][/color]

[color=#60b0d0][size=85][font=monospace]Model          “spacecraft/MarsBase/MarsBase.sss”
ParentBody     “Mars”
TidalLocked     true // up vector automatically derived from FixedPos coordinates
RotationOffset  96 // free parameter – orientation azimuth
FixedPosPolar  (99.512224 -6.943654 3399.9) // longitude, latitude and distance from the parent planet center[/font][/size][/color]
}
I've been searching around some docs or info here and in the manual, but couldn't find any. Can someone explain how to use this? That would come in handy to put the ISS on a fixed orbit.
Thanks to anyone who could help.
I haven't tried myself (yet), but I believe you save that script with a .sc extension, and put it in the addons/catalogs/planets/ folder (create it if necessary). Check the Creating a Planet section in the SE manual for more details.

Well, I did so, and the result was good. You can check it in this post.
ISS is now orbiting with real orbital parameters.

JediTrekkie · 16 Jul 2019 18:36

So, I'm messing around with the in-game editor while trying to build a new addon. but I can't figure out what the new "Chtonia" planet class is or does. the game keeps reverting it to a Ferria or Jupiter. what is it?

Julian · 16 Jul 2019 21:21

So, I'm messing around with the in-game editor while trying to build a new addon. but I can't figure out what the new "Chtonia" planet class is or does. the game keeps reverting it to a Ferria or Jupiter. what is it?

Chthonias (it's misspelled in SE right now) are gas giants whose atmospheres have become enriched in helium because all of their hydrogen has evaporated away. The only way to get the Chthonia class to stick is to set the internal composition to 100% helium. This post on Steam Community has complete details:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1772913885

JediTrekkie · 16 Jul 2019 22:05

So, I'm messing around with the in-game editor while trying to build a new addon. but I can't figure out what the new "Chtonia" planet class is or does. the game keeps reverting it to a Ferria or Jupiter. what is it?
Chthonias (it's misspelled in SE right now) are gas giants whose atmospheres have become enriched in helium because all of their hydrogen has evaporated away. The only way to get the Chthonia class to stick is to set the internal composition to 100% helium. This post on Steam Community has complete details:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1772913885

Ah, gotcha! thanks. that's very interesting...

TechDragon · 19 Jul 2019 09:35

So, I've got a bunch of python scripts for generating entire solar systems that I've just about finished writing... but I cannot find any documentation on what the format of the *.sc files is. The website has lots of examples and is essentially a pretty good guide on how to write these files by hand. But I'm a programmer, if theres a library out there that does work for me I'll use it before writing my own. So I went looking and all I can find is examples of other programmers building *.sc files "by hand" using text substitution and/or string template tools.

What is the actual format of these script files? And to be 100% clear, I mean the configuration syntax/format. As in INI? TOML? UCL? JSON?
I've wasted half a day googling for this and I've come up with nothing. Which is very frustrating.

So does anyone have the information I seek ?

19 Jul 2019 09:54

If there's a library only SpaceEngineer knows. I guess I can speak for the majority of people saying that we usually go for c++ syntax highlighting when using editors like notepad++.

19 Jul 2019 10:57

As in INI? TOML? UCL? JSON?

It's none of it.
.sc files have their own syntax.
As far as I know, SpaceEngineer has a syntax highlighting configuration for .sc files for Notepad ++.

(I myself have made my own configuration file (not complete) for the editor I'm using. (And one for Notepad ++, which is far from complete.))

stongduke · 20 Jul 2019 16:01

How do I use a custom color pallete for a planet? I've made them in the editor, and I have the planet made, but how do I make the planet use a pallete, for example; jupiter_temperate_blue.cfg. Thank you!

Lucas0231 · 25 Jul 2019 06:42

Hello,

Is it possible to customize planet color in .sc file in 0.990 ? There is not color line in exported .sc files.

Thank you !

25 Jul 2019 13:40

How do I use a custom color pallete for a planet? I've made them in the editor, and I have the planet made, but how do I make the planet use a pallete, for example; jupiter_temperate_blue.cfg. Thank you!

The first line in your color file must be UseFor "ParentObject|Object".
And then you have to put your file in the folder data\textures\terrain\samples.
(If your file has a name that is not yet used by SE, you can put it in the addons\textures\terrain\samples folder. You probably have to create these subdirectories first.)

Is it possible to customize planet color in .sc file in 0.990 ? There is not color line in exported .sc files.

You have to create your own .cfg file for it. (You can do that in the editor.)
Examples of such a file can be found in the 'SamplesPresets.pak' archive in the directory 'data\textures\terrain\samples'.
The first line in your file must be UseFor "ParentObject|Object". It's best to put your file in the folder 'data\textures\terrain\samples'.

Lucas0231 · 26 Jul 2019 06:42

Thank you Jackdole !

Schübatamann · 31 Jul 2019 18:17

does anyone have any idea how to creat new terrain textures??

i realised that if you put a dds image with the definition of 1k and _COL after the name for color map or _NORM for normal map in addons\textures\terrain\materials spaceengine will recognize it

then i copied files MaterialsTex.pak into
SpaceEngine\addons\textures\terrain\materials and the materials appeared duplicated in the planet editor as expected , but when i edited the dds files with the Gimp they became buggy in the editor i think it's because the dds may must have especified options that i don't know

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