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Planets in the galactic core

07 Jan 2017 17:09

As anyone who has played No Man's Sky will know, reaching the galactic core is the main goal in the game. The so-called Core Worlds are also the most well-developed and prestigious planets in the Star Wars series.
 
But in real life, there exists the notion of the Galactic Habitable Zone, which states that only a small ring of the Milky Way Galaxy may in fact be hospitable to life as we know it, citing things like metallicty, radiation levels and supernova rates. One study actually disputed its existence, claiming that even with the higher rates of supernovae and bolide impacts, the chance of finding a habitable planet that could support life could be as much as 10x greater than in the outer galaxy simply due to the higher metallicity.
 
So, using the Milky Way Galaxy waypoint as a guide, I set out to find planets. And I found that apparently whoever designed Space Engine apparently looked into this research, because almost every time I would do a 10 ly radius search for stars in the galactic bulge (out to a distance of 5,000 ly from the center) I would almost always find at least one star with a planet that has life, and most of the time I'd find several, at least one of which has 2 or 3 planets with life. More than half of all star systems were also binaries, and many of them had a total number of planets in the double-digits.
 
Here are four interesting planets that I have discovered inside the core of the Milky Way galaxy. All of them have life except for #2:
1. A green desert planet located about 1,300 ly from the galactic center
2. An ocean moon with an ice cap

3. A planet very similiar to Earth but with rings and average temeprature of only 2C, that resides at about 4,000 ly away from the center of our galaxy
4. A "Frozen Titan" that by all metrics should not be habitable (it has a nitrogen atmosphere and a surface temperarture of only -187.1C!), yet it has "exotic multicellular" purple plant life.
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Planets in the galactic core

07 Jan 2017 23:14

whoever designed Space Engine
That would be forum user "SpaceEngineer" ;) Welcome to the forum btw!
Note that galactic cores have a much higher star density than the periphery, as you can see looking around in space and also in the "Stars Found" area of the Star Browser. Within a given distance near the center, e.g. ten light-years, you'll find many more stars than you will doing the same search out near the edge. Consequently you're going to end up finding more habitable planets even if the probability of a given planet being habitable is the same.
Did you account for this? If not I'd be interested in a survey on whether SpaceEngineer considered this factor (or hear from him directly); I suspect he did not and that the rate of habitable planets is the same everywhere.
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02 Feb 2017 12:25

The Galactic Habitable Zone is based on what humans can survive. Aliens might be able to survive the radiation in the core, or other extreme situations for humans, because they evolved to withstand them.
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02 Feb 2017 17:30

Galactic Habitable Zone is based on what humans can survive.
Actually it is based on what Earth life can survive, and even the hardiest microbes would have trouble being blasted by tons of radiation.
The galactic habitable zone is also purely hypothetical currently, though I personally think it is reasonable.
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03 Feb 2017 04:03

Still, life probably exists outside of the GHZ, and we may be outside of their GHZ. Still, the rate of planets with life may be larger in the disk than in the bulge.
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08 Jun 2017 13:35

Parameters got much harder for survivability alone.

I read somewhere now that red dwarfs would expose their planets to much more radiation from the proximity of their habitable zones to the star itself.

I assume the only logical option is to drop finding breathable worlds around Y-M Class stars , because the radiation would kill us before the atmosphere would.
 
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25 Jul 2017 01:30

We find these specific parameters because one day we have the idea to go to these planets. However life rarely surrenders so it can exist virtually anywhere. Although there are still specific parameters.

Although the core of the Galazy is likely to be hotter and more radioactive. If you get closer to the core you'll end up bathed into the gamma rays of Sagitarrius A. And as you get closer to Sagitarrius A I think that stars are getting chaotic. So there is still a "GHZ" for all life in general, as near the center reigns heat, radiation and chaos. But that is just my opinion.

And for Red dwarfs, after all the planet mostly gets tidally locked when it's in the habitable zone. And there is no such thing as "twilight zone" actually, heat is almost evenly distributed on these kinds of planet while a giant permanent cyclone appears on the lit side (SE represents that quite well). Though then yes, Red dwarfs irradiate their planets, and don't forget regular flaring.

If that's the case then we can all forget Proxima b.
 
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02 Feb 2018 00:54

Just came back to this simulator awhile ago. Here's a couple more Galactic Core planets I've found:

1. A planet with purple plant life, as well as green oceans.
2. One of the more interesting tidally locked planets I've found so far, with not only the perpetual ice sheet on the cold side, but also many varibale landscapes on the bright side - from forests to deserts, oceans to snow-capped mountains that rise above the mega cyclone's cloud level.

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02 Feb 2018 04:21

SE 0.980 doesn't have metallicity data in stars, so life probability does not depend on it. It is changed in 0.990, star metallicity is modelled for procedural stars (with higher at the galaxy core), and loaded from catalog for real stars. I didn't saw any works regarding connection of life probability with star metallicity, only probability of a massive planets (hot jupiters, observational fact). Can you provide a link to that work?
 
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02 Feb 2018 11:53

[quote="SpaceEngineer"]SE 0.980 doesn't have metallicity data in stars, so life probability does not depend on it. It is changed in 0.990, star metallicity is modelled for procedural stars (with higher at the galaxy core), and loaded from catalog for real stars. I didn't saw any works regarding connection of life probability with star metallicity, only probability of a massive planets (hot jupiters, observational fact). Can you provide a link to that work?[/quote]

Here you go: https://www.space.com/13088-habitable-p ... enter.html
 
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02 Feb 2018 13:40

Can you provide a link to that work?
I don't see a direct link to the paper in the article, but I guess it's this: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1107.1286.pdf
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28 Jul 2018 21:43

Found a purple gas giant orbiting a blue star orbiting a super massive black hole
 
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11 Mar 2019 17:34

I have found a red dwarf called RSC 8474-1192-4-2250-24 which has 5 planets with life, all of which have unicellular life.
With the amount of bizarre creatures on Earth, I doubt aliens would look like humans with skull deformations or skin conditions.

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