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Posted: 02 Aug 2019 14:46
by SpaceEngineer
Amazing, thank you!

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Posted: 03 Aug 2019 04:31
by znc
Hello again!

I've fully "re-translated" the Spanish gui localization. Since my intention is to have it as an alternative to the current translation I have given it the name espsp-gui.cfg (sp for Spain, feel free to change it) and the LocalName is called "Español de España" (Spanish from Spain) in order to avoid confusion. I do not plan on modifying the db wiki file, so the current one esp-db.cfg can be used for this localization too.

It includes the newly introduced strings from the latest beta branch and some other strings that were forgotten as well. It also fixes some errors like missing acute accents, misinterpretations of the original strings, ambiguous naming and some words that did not exist have been replaced with actual words (there are still some words that don't exist in Spanish but I've left them for now). Wording in the tutorial has been changed a bit too.

I consider it done, there are some strings I haven't found in game, probably because I don't have VR or something so I've marked those strings with comments starting with "XXX" for future reference. Again, this translation is not meant to replace the current one, it's meant complement it.

Thanks!, if you have any questions feel free to ask me.

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Posted: 03 Aug 2019 09:23
by SpaceEngineer
Thanks znc! So you say that current db file can be used with this locale? But I thought that "Spanish Spanish" language differs from "Latin American Spanish"?

I found some weird characters in two places, there may be more:

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To make language selection menu less confusing, new Spanish should be named like "Spanish - Spain" (in English), and old one "Spanish - Latin America". Or what is more correct? "Spanish - Mexico"? How do I write this in Spanish (in the LocalName parameter)?

// In the espsp-gui.cfg
InternationalName   "Spanish - Spain"
LocalName           "Español de España"

// In the espla-gui.cfg
InternationalName   "Spanish - Latin America"
LocalName           "Español - America Latina"


"Latin America" is too long, does not fit into interface:

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Posted: 03 Aug 2019 10:41
by znc
Hi SpaceEngineer.

So you say that current db file can be used with this locale?

Yes! Actually I'm pretty sure the db file used in the newer versions is just a re-encoded copy of the one used in the old versions of SpaceEngine.

I found some weird characters in two places

Oops sorry about that!
My text editor has the bad habit of inserting weird character sequences when you type too fast without making them visible. I'm checking the file with another text editor and I can't find more of those artifacts other than those two you mentioned.
Would you like me to reupload it?

what is more correct? "Spanish - Mexico"? How do I write this in Spanish (in the LocalName parameter)?

Mmm well I'm not a Spanish expert, but I'm pretty sure the Spanish spoken in Latin American countries differ a bit one from the other. I think the safer move to do here is to call it "Spanish - Mexico" (InternationalName) and "Español - México" (LocalName).
By the way if you want you can change the LocalName "Español de España" to "Español - España" for consistency, go ahead. It sounds good to me.

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Posted: 03 Aug 2019 11:56
by tRetro-Visor
znc wrote:
Source of the post  I think the safer move to do here is to call it "Spanish - Mexico" (InternationalName) and "Español - México" (LocalName).

This can work as "Spanish - Hispanic America" and "Español - Hispanoamérica"

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Posted: 04 Aug 2019 02:22
by SpaceEngineer
znc wrote:
Source of the post By the way if you want you can change the LocalName "Español de España" to "Español - España" for consistency, go ahead. It sounds good to me.

But this may not work for other languages. Are Portuguese experts here?

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Posted: 04 Aug 2019 02:24
by SpaceEngineer
What is not clear also, is which Spanish Steam uses. Its interface can be switched to Spanish, and SDK reports language "spanish" to SE. But which one is it? Spanish or Mexican?

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Posted: 04 Aug 2019 03:04
by znc
Hello again.

But which one is it? Spanish or Mexican?

This is what my steam interface shows as language options:
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It shows both Spanish-Spain and Spanish-Latin America. Notice also that the Portuguese one uses the dash '-' too.

Apparently both of these locales have their own steam API code:
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So "latam" refers to Spanish-Latin America, although it's not listed on the available options in the first post of this thread.

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Posted: 05 Aug 2019 05:04
by SpaceEngineer
Cool, thank you znc! It seems they added latam and arabic recently!

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Posted: 07 Aug 2019 00:12
by Julian
tRetro-Visor wrote:
Text misalignment is still present in spanish, even after changes

Would it be acceptable in Spanish to use "Compos. marina" instead of "Compos. de los mares"?

Thinking about this made me notice another potential problem with the way SE handles localizations: should "life", "life forms" and  "life biomes" be defined as gendered nouns in the localization file? Do adjectives like "organic", "multicellular" and "aerial" need gender and number agreement with those nouns?

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Posted: 22 Aug 2019 13:06
by styrax
Hello SpaceEngineer,

I am considering adding traditional Chinese names to the stars. A big number of stars have traditional Chinese names (this Wikipedia page lists 1,511), and they are still the most commonly used names of stars in China by far. I guess the translation could be done through chs-db.cfg and cht-db.cfg. The problem is that a large number of these stars do not even have traditional western names, so I cannot find out what is the "IDs" of the stars in the db.cfg files, as are filled in the "Name" field. For example, I know the "Name" of Alpha Centauri is Toliman, which I find in rus-db.cfg, but what would be the SpaceEngine "Names" of 5 Ursae Minoris or HIP 51384? Is there a rule to decide them?

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Posted: 22 Aug 2019 14:03
by JackDole
styrax wrote:
Source of the post I am considering adding traditional Chinese names to the stars.

'HIP 51384' is simply called 'HIP 51384' or 'HD 89517' in SpaceEngine. Many stars have no proper names.
You could make an entry like this in the -db.cfg file:
RObject
{
 LocName "四輔/Four Advisors"        //Although that's probably just the name for the constellation or star group to which the star belongs.
 Name "HIP 51384"
}

(I have the names from the Wikipedia list.)
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'5 Ursae Minoris' is '5 UMi' in SpaceEngine. You can also use the HIP or HD number.
RObject
{
    LocName "庶子/Son of Concubine"
    Name    "5 UMi"
}

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Posted: 22 Aug 2019 14:39
by Mosfet
You Could also simply copy-paste the name using in-game wiki editing features.

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Posted: 23 Aug 2019 05:14
by styrax
JackDole wrote:
styrax wrote:
Source of the post I am considering adding traditional Chinese names to the stars.

'HIP 51384' is simply called 'HIP 51384' or 'HD 89517' in SpaceEngine. Many stars have no proper names.
You could make an entry like this in the -db.cfg file:
RObject
{
 LocName "四輔/Four Advisors"        //Although that's probably just the name for the constellation or star group to which the star belongs.
 Name "HIP 51384"
}

(I have the names from the Wikipedia list.)
chin-scr00312.jpg
'5 Ursae Minoris' is '5 UMi' in SpaceEngine. You can also use the HIP or HD number.
RObject
{
    LocName "庶子/Son of Concubine"
    Name    "5 UMi"
}

chin-scr00313.jpg

Thank you for the help. I start working today.