Please understand that this is not about secrecy, this is just about time management, as well as estimation. I don't think you realise but the reason the rule for not asking about release date exists is simply because it is quite rude to do so. We don't mind if people are just asking out of curiosity and haven't seen the rules, but those who know the rules and make comments and insinuations like this come across as very rude. Vladimir isn't involved in any conspiracies. He's estimating, and is very busy and does his best on all, and you really should just be grateful for that, not annoyed at him in any way. Also, decisions made about the game are not up for question and debate, and this is absolutely fine, most game companies do that. You are welcome to make suggestions but please do so politely and do not get angry if they are not taken on board.

N0B0DY wrote:

Nebulax wrote:

I need you to clarify a bit the reason for this long wait ...After years, a few months ago I asked if it would arrive by 2018 and you said yes.
On October 24 you said that the work was mostly completed ... 2 months later the steam version was going to be sent.Month and a half later nothing is known ... only that there are people who make videos on YouTube of the 0.9.9 impressive to give envy and the only answer I get is "I am a beta tester"

Could you be a little clearer?
Would not it be useful to launch the game as early access in steam and for people to buy it while it is updated periodically and so the product is released little by little as it improves and improves?

If you think that Space Engine is taking a lot of time to release... just think of poor Star Citizen Fans who have paid hundreds (if not thousands) of $ and what do they have to play with...
Yes it is taking a lot of time but if you had seen any of HarbingerDawn's Live-streams you would might have wanted to reconsider. In his very latest live-stream the program was crashing every now and then. It must have crashed at least 3 times if I recall correctly. This must be improved before the program goes live on steam. I suspect that Vladimir is doing just that right now. No more additions and new features - just bug fixes. This can take a considerable amount of time. I wouldn't be surprised if the release comes around Q4 2019.
So next time you think Space Engine is taking too much time to get released just think of Star Citizen .

Thanks I like that!  No one needs an exact release date but an estimate of Q4 2019 is perfect That's like what the big processor companies do when they talk about releasing major new products in a certain quarter and Q4 2019 is great timing for my birthday

Dr. Kaii wrote:

Please understand that this is not about secrecy, this is just about time management, as well as estimation. I don't think you realise but the reason the rule for not asking about release date exists is simply because it is quite rude to do so. We don't mind if people are just asking out of curiosity and haven't seen the rules, but those who know the rules and make comments and insinuations like this come across as very rude. Vladimir isn't involved in any conspiracies. He's estimating, and is very busy and does his best on all, and you really should just be grateful for that, not annoyed at him in any way. Also, decisions made about the game are not up for question and debate, and this is absolutely fine, most game companies do that. You are welcome to make suggestions but please do so politely and do not get angry if they are not taken on board.

I think you're confused.
For me to bother is not asking a launch date for a product that you have been advertising for months.

It looks like three months ago I commented in this same thread on the issue of release and I agreed with not giving an exact date but an estimate. I do not usually come here much in fact you can count on your fingers the times I speak in this forum. So do not tag me.

Maybe the problem is not in itself people ask (which is right) but yes in that they have said launch things in steam too early.
I do not want you to come to me saying that games have more or less time in development that I know.
Only that this type of questions are easily solvable saying a simple estimation date or considering put 0.9.9 as early access in steam.

Nebulax wrote:

Source of the post Only that this type of questions are easily solvable saying a simple estimation date or considering put 0.9.9 as early access in steam.

It seems to me that SpaceEngineer gave to your reiterated question an answer, that you partially referred few posts above. That wasn't a launch date, but an estimation date. It's no secret that the program has bugs and instabilities that have to be addressed before Steam launch, if you were willing to stick around forums or in Discord channels you wouldn't come here talking about secrecy.
In my opinion right now the program is not stable enough to risk even an early access. The only effect of an early access that I can picture is a (hopefully) consistent number of sales, followed by an equally consistent number of requests for a refund. Since we're talking about games reputation on Steam: How this could affect the future of such program, made by a lone programmer which is betting a lot on this move, I'll leave it to your own imagination.

Hi, guys! Well... I have some news: SE is planned to be released before spring 2019. Don't say I'm a liar or something. I found it out on two months old reddit page, where HarbingerDawn was answering frequently asked questions. One person asked about spring 2019 and HarbingerDawn said that it is planned to be released before this time. In my opinion it will be out on Steam by mid/late February.
Keep it in mind!

SpaceSpade wrote:

Hi, guys! Well... I have some news: SE is planned to be released before spring 2019. Don't say I'm a liar or something. I found it out on two months old reddit page, where HarbingerDawn was answering frequently asked questions. One person asked about spring 2019 and HarbingerDawn said that it is planned to be released before this time. In my opinion it will be out on Steam by mid/late February.
Keep it in mind!

Sounds more like an estimation or a goal than a fact.
I remember in a past stream HarbingerDawn said something along the lines of "something would have to go horribly wrong if SE isn't released by the end of 2018." It was hardly an official statement (I believe that was in 2017 or early 2018, so it was somewhat reasonable to hope that deadline could be met). We still wait not because something went "wrong," just that development took longer than expected. It may still take longer than you or I expect at this moment. Nothing is certain and anything can change. This was always the case.
I'll get excited once I hear something from Vladimir.

Well. Clearly, I'm not sure too... Also he announced that it'll be out in 2019. I'll be really disappointed if it won't be so.

SpaceSpade wrote:

Well. Clearly, I'm not sure too... Also he announced that it'll be out in 2019. I'll be really disappointed if it won't be so.

2019 is not over yet.

Yeah, it has only begun... but some people are getting tired of waiting. Even I downloaded SE one year ago I wait for 0.9.9.0 like everybody else.
However, the beginning of the year motivates you to wait "some more".

But 0.980 is so magnificent and has billions of worlds to explore why are you guys growing tired of it?  0.990 cant be much better than this already is, so just patiently wait and meanwhile enjoy 0.980 for how amazing it is!

Agree, absolutely! But! There are some things that need to be improved: the "surface" under the oceans of oceanias must be made of (hyper-pressured) ice, not rock, there must be shallow seas on terras with not enough land because it's just impossible to have some small islands in boundless waters, there must be enough land hidden under the water (not everywhere, just near the continents!).
Also in my opinion it would be great to show the atmospherical composition of middle T class and all Y classes of brown dwarfs and
subdivide the gas giants into ones with hydrogen/water cores - "aquarian innards jupiter" and ones with silicate/iron innards - "silicate innards jupiter". And... I would like to introduce the new classes of planets - "hydrogenic aquaria" and "hydrogenic terra". These are MASSIVE and pretty large in size terras and aquarias which have hydrogenic atmospheres on them. They may even become cores of gas giants soon.
And all in all I still want low temperature brown dwarfs to become habitable.

[quote="NathanKerbonaut"][quote="SpaceSpade"]Hi, guys! Well... I have some news: SE is planned to be released before spring 2019. Don't say I'm a liar or something. I found it out on two months old reddit page, where HarbingerDawn was answering frequently asked questions. One person asked about spring 2019 and HarbingerDawn said that it is planned to be released before this time. In my opinion it will be out on Steam by mid/late February.
Keep it in mind![/quote]
Sounds more like an estimation or a goal than a fact.
[size=100]I remember in a past stream HarbingerDawn said something along the lines of "something would have to go horribly wrong if SE isn't released by the end of 2018." It was hardly an official statement (I believe that was in 2017 or early 2018, so it was somewhat reasonable to hope that deadline could be met). We still wait not because something went "wrong," just that development took longer than expected. It may still take longer than you or I expect at this moment. Nothing is certain and a[/size][size=100]nything can change. This was always the case.[/size]
I'll get excited once I hear something from Vladimir.[/quote]
Well, something did kinda go wrong, not with the game itself but the website, which would've slowed things down a bit. Since someone in China decided to hack attack the site, that would have meant Vladimir had to put resources into fixing that. Hopefully things are now back on track.

SpaceSpade wrote:

Source of the post Also in my opinion it would be great to show the atmospherical composition of middle T class and all Y classes of brown dwarfs and subdivide the gas giants into ones with hydrogen/water cores - "aquarian innards jupiter" and ones with silicate/iron innards - "silicate innards jupiter". And... I would like to introduce the new classes of planets - "hydrogenic aquaria" and "hydrogenic terra". These are MASSIVE and pretty large in size terras and aquarias which have hydrogenic atmospheres on them. They may even become cores of gas giants soon. And all in all I still want low temperature brown dwarfs to become habitable.

I share your concerns SS, but do not worry about it. The mere fact that Vladimir has overhauled the previous planetary classification and characterization parameters into one of far superior realism tells me that he has these ideas in mind and will no doubt tweak those parameters again in the future. Bear in mind, this is still a work in progress.

I just went and got an oculus cv1, hopefully it's not too much longer till space engine is updated, for now I'll have to play beat saber.

I need Ray Tracing and a release date. Love Space Engine btw.