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Posted: 28 Feb 2019 19:37
by Macronicus
SpaceEngineer wrote:
They may be as large as you want, but resolution / level of detail will be fixed anyway.


You mean there will be nebulas that's just as big as the Tarantula Nebula?

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Posted: 28 Feb 2019 21:03
by -eyasluna
[quote="SpaceEngineer"]They may be as large as you want, but resolution / level of detail will be fixed anyway.[/quote]

Oh that's great news! I was stuck thinking they would be small with a fixed size

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Posted: 01 Mar 2019 04:12
by SpaceEngineer
Large nebulae have other problem - blending with the galaxy. There is simply no blending, nebula just rendered on top of the galaxy. So if you try to look on it through the galaxy dust, the result will be incorrect:

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This is not so noticeable on small nebulae. Similar problem exist with stars: they are rendered on top of galaxy and nebulae. It is noticeable on distant bright supergiants, which must be affected by dust absorption. And also very noticeable on all stars visible inside and behind a dusty nebula: dust does not absorb star light. This problem is very complex to solve.

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Posted: 01 Mar 2019 04:45
by Solaris_
Steam,emmmmm will there be a off-line mode in the paid version? My computer can't connect to internet all the time. :(

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Posted: 01 Mar 2019 04:52
by Solaris_
SpaceEngineer wrote:
Large nebulae have other problem - blending with the galaxy. There is simply no blending, nebula just rendered on top of the galaxy. So if you try to look on it through the galaxy dust, the result will be incorrect:

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This is not so noticeable on small nebulae. Similar problem exist with stars: they are rendered on top of galaxy and nebulae. It is noticeable on distant bright supergiants, which must be affected by dust absorption. And also very noticeable on all stars visible inside and behind a dusty nebula: dust does not absorb star light. This problem is very complex to solve.

Is that because of the nebula and the galaxy are rendered separately? Maybe it would be better to turn a nebula into a blurred 2D sprite when it's far away from the camera?

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Posted: 01 Mar 2019 06:17
by Macronicus
SpaceEngineer wrote:
Large nebulae have other problem - blending with the galaxy. There is simply no blending, nebula just rendered on top of the galaxy. So if you try to look on it through the galaxy dust, the result will be incorrect:

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This is not so noticeable on small nebulae. Similar problem exist with stars: they are rendered on top of galaxy and nebulae. It is noticeable on distant bright supergiants, which must be affected by dust absorption. And also very noticeable on all stars visible inside and behind a dusty nebula: dust does not absorb star light. This problem is very complex to solve.


Well atleast we have giant nebulas now

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Posted: 01 Mar 2019 08:06
by HarbingerDawn
Solaris_ wrote:
Source of the post Steam,emmmmm will there be a off-line mode in the paid version? My computer can't connect to internet all the time.

Yes, Steam has an offline mode.

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Posted: 01 Mar 2019 09:22
by Sion
Maybe just have it fade quicker than the Galaxy itself?

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Posted: 01 Mar 2019 14:57
by -eyasluna
So im guessing the overly large nebula will act like ngc 604 in a way? It too can be seen from far out of its galaxy and through dustbands. 

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Posted: 01 Mar 2019 20:39
by HarbingerDawn
-eyasluna wrote:
Source of the post It too can be seen from far out of its galaxy and through dustbands.

No, it cannot be seen through dust any more than any other nebula can.

-eyasluna wrote:
Source of the post Ive been wondering ever since the nebula have become ray-marched, what is the largest they can get? Im not talking Tarantula nebula size but most ive seen from harbingerdawns streams is they're mostly small in regards to some real nebula.

They are generated in a large range of sizes. Some are only a few light-years across, while some are huge (I've seen at least one nebula that's 150 light-years wide, which would make it one of the largest nebulae in the galaxy).

In real life, nebulae that are hundreds of light-years wide (or more) are very uncommon, no more than a few per galaxy in most cases.

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Posted: 01 Mar 2019 21:25
by -eyasluna
I guess im mistaken, but anyways that's great news about the nebulae, as SpaceEngineer said they can be as large as WE want, I thought he was only indicating that their size could be changed through the editor, which im guessing is also an option? Thanks. 

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Posted: 02 Mar 2019 04:29
by SpaceEngineer
-eyasluna wrote:
Source of the post they can be as large as WE want

SE is a scientifically accurate simulator, it doesn't care what you want, it tries to represent the Universe as it is :)

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Posted: 02 Mar 2019 06:54
by longname
longname wrote:
HarbingerDawn wrote:
Messier wrote:
Source of the post Asking a question about nebulae: can circumstellar disks appear around procedural stars now?

No, they are not finished yet. Circumstellar disks and animated supernovae were experimental features, not finished ones, and they won't be finished for this release (at the very least, supernovae won't).

When 0.990 rolls around, will we be able to turn on experimental features like animated nebula and circumstellar disks?

Since no-one seems to have replied, may I ask this again?

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Posted: 02 Mar 2019 16:05
by Stellarator
SpaceEngineer wrote:
-eyasluna wrote:
Source of the post they can be as large as WE want

SE is a scientifically accurate simulator, it doesn't care what you want, it tries to represent the Universe as it is :)

Sick burn 8-).

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Posted: 02 Mar 2019 17:35
by -eyasluna
[quote="SpaceEngineer"][quote="-eyasluna"][post]27305[/post] they can be as large as WE want[/quote]
SE is a scientifically accurate simulator, it doesn't care what you want, it tries to represent the Universe as it is :)[/quote]

I thought you meant they could only be large using the editor, and that the nebula I had seen in harbingerdawn's streams were the only size range for them. Again my mistake but that is a great way of putting SpaceEngine into perspective :)