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22 Sep 2017 15:09

I've heard that the Duke nebulae will not be coming in 0.981, and just 3D clouds, is this true?
Where did you hear that from?
The Discord server.
I've heard that the Duke nebulae will not be coming in 0.981, and just 3D clouds, is this true?


I believe it's the other way around.
That would make sense because they are in some of the beta builds.
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24 Sep 2017 02:32

Yes, I seriously think we should be discussing the fact that we are getting higher level of detail textures. I mean, WOW
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25 Sep 2017 10:57

Planet texture generator must produce some sort of a mask texture, which will define where to place pebbles, where sand, where grass. These textures will be generated in addition to the elevation/normal and color/specular textures, thus increasing memory load by 33%.
Is your work on detail textures intended to be used on procedural planets, or planets with bitmapped textures? If you’re going to add procedural detail to bitmapped planets in the future, then every bitmapped planet probably needs to have a mask texture added to it anyway. Were you thinking that the mask texture’s red, green and blue channels could be used to represent sand, grass and pebbles (for example) respectively? Could you use the alpha channel for water, so that we can get bodies of water above sea level? But then what would the program be rendering if the sand, grass, pebbles and water values were all maximum in the same place?
 
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26 Sep 2017 12:18

Continuing work on planet atmosphere and hydrosphere chemistry:
http://spaceengine.org/news/blog170926/
 
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26 Sep 2017 12:40

awesome!! this new hydrosphere sounds great! and for someone that study chemistry right now like myself this is very great tool to use and imagine such hydrospheres in real life.  :)
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26 Sep 2017 12:57

Continuing work on planet atmosphere and hydrosphere chemistry:
http://spaceengine.org/news/blog170926/
fantastic, really looks like a dream come true. 
out of interest, is the science there to calculate atmosphere colours based on chemistry? If so, will you be adding that soon?
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26 Sep 2017 13:55

Continuing work on planet atmosphere and hydrosphere chemistry:
http://spaceengine.org/news/blog170926/
It's too much progress in one week. What happened, an alien gifted you with superpowers?
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26 Sep 2017 14:08

ARBB, lots of this stuff has been in the works for a bit longer than a week, it's just in a more presentable state now. 
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26 Sep 2017 14:08

It's too much progress in one week. What happened, an alien gifted you with superpowers?
No, I was too lazy to write the previous blog post two weeks ago. I did it yesterday :)

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26 Sep 2017 14:17

Oh nice work and you made climate (for atmosphere and water for this moment).

For the water, color is like with the composition ?

And for the sea like the Earth explain with the water is no "spheric", maybe you do considerate the RotationPeriod (if the planet have a low RotationPeriod, the water go to the pole) and tidal force like the Moon for tide but I think is very complicate for code this.

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26 Sep 2017 15:17

Continuing work on planet atmosphere and hydrosphere chemistry:
http://spaceengine.org/news/blog170926/
Oh my God! This is so much work! Space Engineer you have opened the Pandora's box!
No I mean in the good sense! I am only sorry for you because now the complexity of the program has increased exponentially..
Anyway this is great news! I only have one comment / suggestion to make regarding planet atmosphere generation:
Now some planets with high g's have very dense atmospheres at their surface level but, at higher altitudes, the atmosphere is getting very thin, very fast. What I mean is that you can practically stay in orbit around such worlds at ~15-20km altitude because the air pressure at this altitude is practically zero whereas on their surface it can be thousands if not hundreds of thousands of atms.
I can understand that the high gravity may be "compressing" (sorry can't find any appropriate scientific term for that) the air molecules towards the surface thereby increasing the pressure tremendously at the surface level and causing very high gradient reduction of pressure as altitude from surface increases. But still it feels absurd to be able to orbit such worlds at almost contact altitude.
Similarly at relatively lower g worlds the atmosphere may rise very high above the surface. So you may find worlds with 0.3 gs for example with atmospheric heights above 200 kms. And with surface atmosphere pressure not exceeding 0.01 atm.
So is this new chemical model taking into account this issue? or at least reduces the intensity of it?
Sorry for long post - I am just very excited for this release.
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26 Sep 2017 18:47

For the water, color is like with the composition ?
I didn't worked on textures yet, as I had explain in the post.
And for the sea like the Earth explain with the water is no "spheric", maybe you do considerate the RotationPeriod (if the planet have a low RotationPeriod, the water go to the pole) and tidal force like the Moon for tide but I think is very complicate for code this.
You are asking about completely different work, unrelated to the ocean chemistry.
So is this new chemical model taking into account this issue? or at least reduces the intensity of it?
This is not related to chemistry, it's a simple physics. SE calculates height of the atmosphere using something similar to the barometric formula. It was in 0.980 and earlier, since the beginning.
 
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26 Sep 2017 19:29

Wow.  All this variety is going to make exploring much more fun!
 
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27 Sep 2017 02:06

So is this new chemical model taking into account this issue? or at least reduces the intensity of it?
This is not related to chemistry, it's a simple physics. SE calculates height of the atmosphere using something similar to the barometric formula. It was in 0.980 and earlier, since the beginning.
Ah ok but is it normal for high g worlds to have such a rapid reduction of atmospheric pressure with altitude? It still seems a bit strange to reach near space at such low altitudes.
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27 Sep 2017 04:46

One question: When SE 0.9.8.1 will BW realased?

Sorry if i annoy you i'm kid and i'am curious
There is never a set release date, it would put pressure on SpaceEngineer, and there wouldn't really be much of a reason for it anyway. I'd personally say that there's still at least several months until release even becomes an option - a lot of the new major features in 0.9.8.1 still aren't completely done(namely procedural raymarched nebulae and the new planetary classification/generation system). 
I've heard some users apart of the development team say that the new update will most likely be coming out this year. So that's like 1-2 months more months left. I could be wrong of course, but I'm optimistic. :)
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