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Troubleshooting and bug reports - SpaceEngine 0.9.8.0

Posted: 22 Dec 2019 08:14
by Joud
Hello .. i'm not able to install SE on LinuxMint19 using PLaylinux -  if someone could help me thanks in advance

Troubleshooting and bug reports - SpaceEngine 0.9.8.0

Posted: 16 Jan 2020 03:57
by KnarzKnorp
Hello!
I use version 0.9.8.0e

My primary issue is that all the suns diffraction spikes and lens flares aren't rendered, as if they are obfuscated, on all planets from ground level up to ~260 or ~415km. Then they appear again. This effectively removes the sun from the sky and ruins the view. It is irrelevant if the planet has an atmosphere or not, it seems. Any idea why this happens?
I use a couple of mods, but they don't cause that. I removed them and tried it again.

Secondly, I have to click on sidebar buttons several times, sometimes as much as 20 times, until they pop-up. This is also true for buttons like F3 or even planet and stars sometimes. This is very annoying. :(

Troubleshooting and bug reports - SpaceEngine 0.9.8.0

Posted: 16 Jan 2020 04:09
by KnarzKnorp
It seems I am not allowed to edit my post. Ok: The second issue also appears in the main menu. Clicking ANY button takes several tries.

Troubleshooting and bug reports - SpaceEngine 0.9.8.0

Posted: 16 Jan 2020 05:24
by KnarzKnorp
I figured out the issue with the suns disappearing comes from AutoExposure. (0 (off), 1 (simple), 2 (normal))
"AutoExposureMode 0" looks meh because it is not changing the exposure.
"AutoExposureMode 1" looks bad because the sun disappears at certain altitudes.
"AutoExposureMode 2" sun looks ok. The planets surfaces are a little too dark: It seems to force "RealPlanetBrightness" to 1 or 0. I don't know. It's so dark that only setting exposure to 2x is good enough.

Also I can't fix the issue with the buttons. :(

Troubleshooting and bug reports - SpaceEngine 0.9.8.0

Posted: 16 Jan 2020 07:08
by KnarzKnorp
dang it, I need to be a able to edit or delete my posts...
- The diffraction spikes in normal or super mode produce a black spot in the middle of the sun (like what it looks like with cheap cameras), and the simple version removes the diffraction spikes in even the slightest amount of atmosphere completely.
- They disappear in atmosphere due to being darkened beyond recognition - which sometimes darkens the sun to being black/invisible, and this is even when I'm 420km high or above where there should not be much of any atmosphere left.
- It has nothing to do with the brightness of the objects in frame or slightly outside of it. I can look straight up from a surface to where the sun is and move upwards to see the sun pop in at some random point 200km above the clouds.
- Resetting the config and removing the addons, then deleting the cache folder does not help.
- I remember it was better a few years ago when I played with the program on my laptop. There was also no issue with button not registering my inputs.
- I can not find a combination of AutoExposureMode, LensFlareMode, RealStarBrightness, RealPlanetBrightness, AtmoExtinction, Exposure and Magnitude that actually looks acceptable/real on every planet. :(

I give up now and await your answers. Thank you guys!

Troubleshooting and bug reports - SpaceEngine 0.9.8.0

Posted: 16 Jan 2020 09:26
by Mosfet
KnarzKnorp, 0980e patch is rather bugged. It was meant to introduce precision analytical models for solar system orbits, just in time for the american solar eclipse. As such, it wasn't properly tested, hence the issues you've found. If you're not particularly interested in precise orbital solutions for planets and moons of the solar system, I'd suggest to revert to 0980 version, installed in a new folder.

You'll be able to edit your posts after a total of 10 posts.

Troubleshooting and bug reports - SpaceEngine 0.9.8.0

Posted: 16 Jan 2020 11:30
by Quentyn
So there's this bug in all versions 0.9.8.0 onwards (including all steam releases) where all objects such as space crafts visually clip through planet atmospheres/clouds. Below are some screenshots I took in 0.9.7.3 (where this issue doesn't exist) and also 0.990. I placed an add-on Death Star in orbit around a planet and it's completely unaffected by hue, cloud cover and atmosphere? 

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Troubleshooting and bug reports - SpaceEngine 0.9.8.0

Posted: 16 Jan 2020 18:47
by KnarzKnorp
KnarzKnorp, 0980e patch is rather bugged. It was meant to introduce precision analytical models for solar system orbits, just in time for the american solar eclipse. As such, it wasn't properly tested, hence the issues you've found. If you're not particularly interested in precise orbital solutions for planets and moons of the solar system, I'd suggest to revert to 0980 version, installed in a new folder.

You'll be able to edit your posts after a total of 10 posts.

Hi, Ok I turned back to 0.9.8.0. That fixed the menu and button issues! Thank you!!
But the problems with the sun and exposure is still there. The sun alone only looks and behaves good when using AutoExposure off. But makes everything else look stupidly bright. For example I would need to turn Galaxy brightness down from 4 to ~2.5 to "remove" the milky way from the background when a planet is in sight, but that looks bad when looking at any galaxy from far away. (Removing all the galaxies from intergalactic background)
(Using AutoExposureMode 2 creates the black spot in the middle of the sun, btw. I guess that is why this setting isn't available through the menu.)
LensFlareMode 2 doesn't fix it and also doesn't cause it. I don't know if that even makes a difference.
I still can't find a solution that looks good, which is really weird imo.
On earth, for example, when I am 2 to 2.26 km above sea level the diffraction spikes and lens flares just disappear, and when about 200km high up, looking around with the left mouse button (up and down) makes the sun blink in an out.
I clearly am the only one with this issue, right? So it must be something I do. Right?

Troubleshooting and bug reports - SpaceEngine 0.9.8.0

Posted: 19 Jan 2020 15:47
by Neak
So I was trying to start SE 0.9.8.0 but it almost instantly crashes.
The Screenshot shows everything i am able to see before it crashes.

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I have reinstalled my drivers like 5 times ( currently on Game Ready Driver 441.87 )
and i even tried to install CUDA and C++ Redistributables.

I have a 2060 Super ( 8 GB VRAM which should be enough )
a Ryzen 5 2600 
and 16 Gigs of RAM

I don´t know why it does not even do anything but crashing even though my PC should be able to run it.
Is my GPU too new for this old Version and if ( WHY )

I seriously don´t know what else to try, so maybe anyone here has an idea.

Troubleshooting and bug reports - SpaceEngine 0.9.8.0

Posted: 20 Jan 2020 00:06
by JackDole
Neak wrote:
Source of the post So I was trying to start SE 0.9.8.0 but it almost instantly crashes.

SE 0.980 no longer works with newer Nvidia driver versions (436.02 and higher).
(It still works on a few computers, but you're obviously out of luck.)

Troubleshooting and bug reports - SpaceEngine 0.9.8.0

Posted: 20 Jan 2020 06:16
by KnarzKnorp
but you're obviously out of luck.

Well, he just has to install an older driver than 436.02. No problem.
Do you know how to fix my issue?

Troubleshooting and bug reports - SpaceEngine 0.9.8.0

Posted: 21 Jan 2020 21:55
by JackDole
KnarzKnorp wrote:
Source of the post Do you know how to fix my issue?

You may have changed other settings.
Delete your 'main-user.cfg' and your 'save-user.cfg'. (Or better, move they to a different folder so you can restore they if necessary.)
If you remove these files, SE will create new ones with the default settings.

Troubleshooting and bug reports - SpaceEngine 0.9.8.0

Posted: 22 Jan 2020 04:37
by KnarzKnorp
JackDole wrote:
KnarzKnorp wrote:
Source of the post Do you know how to fix my issue?

You may have changed other settings.
Delete your 'main-user.cfg' and your 'save-user.cfg'. (Or better, move they to a different folder so you can restore they if necessary.)
If you remove these files, SE will create new ones with the default settings.

Still happening. :( With fresh install.

Troubleshooting and bug reports - SpaceEngine 0.9.8.0

Posted: 22 Jan 2020 20:54
by Mr. Abner
KnarzKnorp wrote:
JackDole wrote:
KnarzKnorp wrote:
Source of the post Do you know how to fix my issue?

You may have changed other settings.
Delete your 'main-user.cfg' and your 'save-user.cfg'. (Or better, move they to a different folder so you can restore they if necessary.)
If you remove these files, SE will create new ones with the default settings.

Still happening. :( With fresh install.

Sadly, what you are describing with exposure and diffraction spike settings is normal for 0.9.8.0.

Troubleshooting and bug reports - SpaceEngine 0.9.8.0

Posted: 05 Feb 2020 10:11
by QuanticMeme
Space Engine is crahing after I start it. Log:
se.log
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