Mosfet wrote:

gamadh wrote:

Source of the post I have an i5 processor 2.80 GHZ, RAM 8.00 GB, windows 10 64 bit, and still no more than 20 FPS

My specifications are in my signature, and I have ranges between 20-50 FPS. The GPU makes the difference in SpaceEngine.

in my SE 20 FPS is the maximum, the normal rate is 10 to 5 FPS on my PC

probably. I had an old laptop that i used to play space engine 0.9.7.0 and it worked but lagged when i tried to use a spaceship.

FWIW Mesa adds support for 3.1 OpenGL compat. I'm pretty sure though 3.3 compatibility will never be supported, so would be nice if SpaceEngineer have used core profile. For what it worth, mixing old OpenGL through compatibility is frowned upon.

Can my PC run Space Engine?

i7 7700 @4ghz
16gb DDR4 @2400mhz
GTX 1060 6GB @2100mhz/4500mhz

Just kidding my PC runs Space Engine like a dream =P

Meanwhile, [url=https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=a0c8b49284efe736849c0a45920ad0a1bbd8d93d]3.1 OpenGL compatibility landed into Mesa some hours ago.[/url]

/me still waiting for SpaceEngine to start using core context instead of some obsolete OpenGL functionality that's not even supported everywhere, and frowned upon.

My own recent experience tells me you can get great performance with SE even with a very borderline computer/graphics card so long as you don't use procedural textures at all. You can create your own planets fairly simply with text hacks in .sc files. You won't be able to fly over terrain and all the bells and whistles but you can still get tremendous videos of space objects out of it with those hacks. And on top of all that, it runs like a champ with a terrible Radeon 4200 integrated card and probably worse than that. It's the procedural textures that cause the program to crash. Think of it as a trial version of SE.

I'm thinking about getting this one.

Any advice? I know most people will likely advise me to try for a custom built system, but I have gone that route, and wound up wishing I hadn't. I just wanted to quickly get a decent PC for the money, and after shopping around I ran across that one I linked.

One potential problem that I foresee, is the nvidia graphics. I have had to intentionally roll back the graphics driver on my last PC due to the newer nvidia drivers being incompatible with SE. Is that the case with all model drivers, or just that one I was using? SE is probably the #1 reason why I wanted to get a decent PC finally, after all these years, so if this PC won't work, then I'll have to go with a different one.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!

Looking at its specs, I can say that it a good PC option. Try to check the reviews as well before buying this one. Do you have any other PC that you considered aside from this one? 

justjam wrote:

Looking at its specs, I can say that it a good PC option. Try to check the reviews as well before buying this one. Do you have any other PC that you considered aside from this one?

Thank you for your response!

I considered a few more, but this one was the least expensive, for what I would get. My most sought-after spec is the VRAM, and that machine has the most I could find for the price. The PC I linked also has a $500 gfx card in it (mostly because of the VRAM), and the AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Processor is fairly expensive also, at about $200. The case would be at least $200. I feel like I would get an okay deal with that. The more I'm looking at it, the more likely I am to go ahead and grab it.

Looking at it, it doesn't have a DVDrom drive though... I didn't notice that. It's not a total deal-breaker, but...

I merged your topic with this one because it's fundamentally the same.

Apollonius wrote:

Source of the post  had to intentionally roll back the graphics driver on my last PC due to the newer nvidia drivers being incompatible with SE.

I haven't seen this problem since a while with Nvidia drivers, I don't think it should really affect your decision.

Apollonius wrote:

Source of the post it doesn't have a DVDrom drive though... I didn't notice that. It's not a total deal-breaker, but...

It's quite a common occurrence with recent PCs, I'd say also with notebooks. Consider that external USB-3 dvdrw drives may cost 30 dollars or less.

Mosfet wrote:

I merged your topic with this one because it's fundamentally the same.

Apollonius wrote:

Source of the post  had to intentionally roll back the graphics driver on my last PC due to the newer nvidia drivers being incompatible with SE.

I haven't seen this problem since a while with Nvidia drivers, I don't think it should really affect your decision.

Apollonius wrote:

Source of the post it doesn't have a DVDrom drive though... I didn't notice that. It's not a total deal-breaker, but...

It's quite a common occurrence with recent PCs, I'd say also with notebooks. Consider that external USB-3 dvdrw drives may cost 30 dollars or less.

Thank you very much for your help, and I'm sorry for the duplicate post!

And I have decided to go ahead and get the PC I linked. It's supposed to arrive within a week! I'm really excited, I've never owned a real gaming machine. I have never actually been able to fly around on a planet in SE, let alone enter galaxies without crashing. I already have a newegg tab open, full of external DVDr drives. :p I'm also now looking at VR headsets like the Oculus rift, and other cheaper models. I can use them with that PC! Thank you again!