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14 Dec 2016 08:03

SpaceEngine contains many, many catalog objects, and only a tiny number of them have descriptions in the database files (these descriptions are what show up in the Info section of the 'Wiki' window in SE). Writing descriptions for objects is a very time-consuming task, so it's hard for SpaceEngineer and the few people who help him to find the time to do it.

This is a great way for the SE community to help improve the program! You can write object descriptions to be used in SpaceEngine. And if your contributions get added to the program, you will of course get your name added to the SE credits ;)

But you can't write just anything and have it be added. There are some rules that you must follow:

  1. Descriptions must be entirely written by you. You cannot copy a description, in whole or in part, from somewhere else (e.g. Wikipedia).
  2. Description information should be as accurate and up-to-date as possible. This may require checking multiple sources of information to verify that the information you collect is correct and scientifically accepted.
  3. Descriptions should be well-written. Please do not write a description for a language that you are not very proficient in.
  4. Descriptions should be well-formatted if they contain a large amount of information (if there is only enough information to write a few sentences, don't worry about it). See example below:

► Description Code

This is how it looks in SE:

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As you can see, there are a number of descriptions in SE right now that don't meet this standard, and should be updated :)

The database file you must edit can be found in the /data/locale folder, and will end in -db.cfg (so eng-db.cfg for English). You can find the full list of codes you can use in your scripts here.

Happy writing!

List of updated db files for 0.98

Download them into /data/locale folder.
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14 Dec 2016 11:53

Wait a second, this sounds awfully familiar.
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14 Dec 2016 15:42

I was just writing few lines for Oberon and Titania. This should cover with some contents all major planets and moons of the solar system for the Italian database.
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18 Dec 2016 09:16

The hardest amount of info is for asteroids. Most information that I drag up on some of these asteroids only are like one or two sentences like "It exists" and that is all. For example, asteroid 334 Chicago literally only has one sentence about it on Wikipedia and everything else that I find on it is more about the guy that discovered it than the actual rock itself.
 
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18 Dec 2016 09:39

I don't know if it's done yet in languages other than mine, but I think it could make sense from an amateur astronomer point of view to cover all objects which are directly visible with small instruments first, most famous Messier objects, for example.
And of course all main planets and moons of the solar system, which are been studied somehow with a probe. This because they are those with the most available sources.
 
One-liners should be the last, if covered at all. Then again, for many asteroids there many papers publicly available mentioning some of their characteristics, that are "hardcore" science and difficult to synthesize in a wiki page.
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18 Dec 2016 15:03

Mosfet wrote:
One-liners should be the last, if covered at all. Then again, for many asteroids there many papers publicly available mentioning some of their characteristics, that are "hardcore" science and difficult to synthesize in a wiki page.

The part about there being hardcore evidence for them is not so much the issue (because most of the hardcore info about a nebula or an asteroid for example is already in the game files on the left side of the screen when you click on a known object) but so much so in the actual information such as an object's full description like a planet such as our own or a more famous asteroid such as Hale-Bopp. The nebulas, asteroids, star clusters, etc that we know of in real life that are just slapped on with a random number and letter pattern (i.e. asteroid 1999 US3) doesn't have a long and lengthy description like other objects (again such as Hale-Bopp) that have been observed more frequently and most of the time, you can't get info on who found it, the story of how it was found, etc. So that is what I was just mentioning in reference too was just how some of them are going to not have as much information as other well known objects in the sky. Not saying there isn't any info, but just a whole lot less.
 
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07 Mar 2017 23:34

But are locale folder moddable? I tried to create descriptions for a few of my custom planets, it didn't showed up in SE, "info" tab is greyed out.
 
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08 Mar 2017 00:39

darth_biomech,
you can add descriptions to each object with 'Edit'.
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They will be saved in the 'config' folder in the 'user-eng-db.cfg' file, or if you click 'Real object', saved in the 'data\locale' folder in the 'eng-db.cfg' file.
Respectively in the appropriate files of your language.
 
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08 Mar 2017 01:50

Well, yeah, I have locale\eng-db.cfg in my addon's folder with an entry for one of the planets, but it doesn't show up in the program.Or it should only appear if it will be in data\locale\eng-db.cfg of the main root?
 
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08 Mar 2017 01:57

It must be 'data\locale'.
 
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10 Mar 2017 16:29

A few years ago, I made a thread similar to this on the old forum. Unfortunately, nothing much came of it, but I'm glad to see a similar project get started up. Anyways, here's my own cfg file I've done during the old project(which can still be downloaded on the thread). It contains entries for the Moon, Io, Europa, Ganymede, and a few minor asteroids and comets. If there's any problem with the file(since it was made several versions ago), let me know.
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11 Mar 2017 00:08

DeathStar,
if someone would use your file, he would overwrite the original file. This can not be the purpose.
It would be better, you save your extensions as 'user-eng-db.cfg', in the folder 'config'.
 
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11 Mar 2017 16:28

JackDole wrote:
DeathStar,
if someone would use your file, he would overwrite the original file. This can not be the purpose.
It would be better, you save your extensions as 'user-eng-db.cfg', in the folder 'config'.

Well, I thought that there will be some sort of compilation of all the submitted cfg files in the OP itself(or that the submitted files are collected, vetted and then added to the next version) rather than having to be manually downloaded individually by a user reading the thread, so I don't really think it's a major problem. But I'll keep your advice in mind in the future.
 
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15 Mar 2017 02:51

JackDole wrote:
Source of the post if someone would use your file, he would overwrite the original file. This can not be the purpose.

The wiki has an option "import" to merge db files. However, I didn't tested it during a long time, so it may be broken.
Edit: yes it doesn't work.
Edit2: bug fixed.
Edit3: updated eng-db.cfg is added to OP. Some typos are fixed. Please use a text editor with spell-checking!

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