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05 Mar 2019 11:37

Recently I received several email about some guy in China who acts strangely. I think better is to cite some of them:

Hello! I am a SE fan from China. Although the software has a small audience in China, there are still people who recommend SE to others. However, the lack of malicious marketing of SE has led to the decline of SE's reputation. This person is called "wise cloud" (wisdom here means fool, used for irony), he reprints the teaching gap from your official website without mentioning it, even said that he wrote it himself. Because he publicized SE in a large number of astronomy photography groups, he was blocked by the astronomers, and then with rich "experience" in the vast number of QQ groups, so that many SE fans completely confused the original purpose of SE. There is even an awkward situation in which SE is considered to be a "simulated planet". We will try our best to prevent this from happening, and please consider the solution to prevent the reputation of SE from smelling.


Hello, I am a volunteer of astronomy science popularization from China. I am very grateful to you for developing se, an astronomical simulation software with excellent artistic effects. However, in the last six months, there has been a bad news about se in China. I want to tell you about it. One of my se player friends once told you that a Chinese player named "wise cloud" often made crazy promotion of se in many non-se chat groups in China, which affected the normal chat and discussion. Many of these chat groups were about astronomy. This behavior has aroused the dissatisfaction of a large number of astronomy enthusiasts and even some astronomical researchers. This player also often in chat group to show off to email with you proud,(maybe he thinks he is the first man in se China), a lot of people don't like his such behaviors, he put all these people (including me) on opponent of se (He thinks to oppose him is to blacken se), and incite some fans to harass. Here is my suggestion: if you are free, please issue a notice to announce that there is no official person in charge in China and !Do not promote se by spam!!!(such as QQ and Weibo,PS:Weibo is the Chinese equivalent of twitter)
In addition, please don't let him obtain the internal test qualification of 0.990. (recently, he is frantically looking for a few internal test players in China and wants to exchange for the internal test qualification, which he thinks will help consolidate his position as the self-appointed "head of se China".)

Note: he has changed several nicknames recently. His user name on Weibo is star traveller. His name is the planet maker on QQ. By the way, when he borrowed the tutorial from your official website, he did not mark the source of your official website, which violates the CC3.0 principle.


Of course promotion of SE is not bad, but not this way. So, wise cloud, please stop this!

And yes, I confirm what there is no official representative of SE in China.
 
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05 Mar 2019 17:49

When I saw the title of this thread, I burst out laughing. But then I realized the seriousness of the issue at hand - it is indeed strange but not exactly surprising that someone wants to take credit for either making, or being involved in, SE. It is indeed a wonderful program with great potential.

All I can say is that we should expect more of these con artists as the engine gains popularity, regardless of which country they're from. It happens to a lot of indie softwares and games when they start to go on the market. 
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05 Mar 2019 20:56

SpaceEngineer wrote:
Source of the post  However, the lack of malicious marketing of SE has led to the decline of SE's reputation.

I'm sure it's just a translation error, but this is hilarious.

I don't think there's any way you can stop cons and the spreading of misinformation, but the spread of correct information surely helps.
 
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07 Mar 2019 13:54

First spam and DDoS and now infringement and misrepresentation.  China playing in the global stage is certainly interesting to watch.
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07 Mar 2019 18:09

China probably has the largest SpaceEngine fan base in the world.
It is only natural that such unpleasant things occur in such a big fan base.
China has more people than any other country in the world. It is only natural that among so many people there are a few disagreeable contemporaries.
JackDole's Universe: http://forum.spaceengine.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=71
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JackDole: Mega structures ... http://old.spaceengine.org/forum/17-3252-1 (Old forum)
 
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08 Mar 2019 00:12

JackDole wrote:
Source of the post China has more

China has the most of everything 8-).
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08 Mar 2019 03:05

Above all, the Chinese were the first in most important inventions.
They invented the gunpowder first. They invented the paper. They invented the printing. They invented the compass. They invented the fantasy novel! 8-)
Probably they have also discovered America long before the Vikings.


Oh, and they may be the first to build a permanent moon station!
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08 Mar 2019 17:10

Yep, China could say "FIRST!" about almost everything for 5000 years straight, especially during the Song Dynasty.
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08 Mar 2019 23:53

JackDole wrote:
Oh, and they may be the first to build a permanent moon station!

Key word there being 'may'

Although China does have waaay more resources than other superpowers so it's entirely possible.
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13 Mar 2019 08:38

看到论坛上的回复,我想大多数人都没有意识到问题的严重性。某云在QQ群里刷屏最短的记录是刷了2m(也就是把所有的消息截成长图,这个图片将长达2m),直接导致了很多群立下了群规,凡是在群里提到SpaceEngine的,直接飞机+打勾。同时他的恶意传销使得SE的粉丝在短短几天降了一大半,前一段时间的大规模DDOS攻击,就是一些人受到某云的骚扰,忍无可忍做的。目前SE的中国粉丝在急剧下降,所以请不要用这件事开玩笑。而且,他写的教程漏洞百出,后果不用想都知道。
 
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13 Mar 2019 09:00

顺便说一句,某云的行为不是推广,这是对SE完全有害无利的事情
 
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13 Mar 2019 10:22

The thing is this:
I am a SE fan. I like SE very much. I know very little about this software in China, so I wrote SE tutorial.
Last October, I felt it necessary to recommend SE in other astronomical QQ groups. So I sent my SE tutorial in astronomical groups. As a result, in an astronomical photography group, someone said that I brushed the screen to stop my hair.
But I only sent it once, and I didn't. The last time I sent SE tutorials to other astronomical QQ groups was in early January. I only sent a link or a text file. It hasn't been sent since.
I haven't done most of what the two people wrote to SE developers. They emailed SE developers, presumably to get them to delete my SE tutorials.
Falsely accused me of copying the SE official website's tutorials, I did not copy, I will attach the tutorials I wrote and the tutorials I translated later, please check.
Those who send e-mails to SE developers are a group of children, who have also scolded SE developers in the group and belittled SE as unscientific. They call SE developers Mao Zi, which is an insulting term.
1. I'm not called wise cloud.
2. I didn't brush the screen crazily. I just sent SE tutorials to other astronomers in some astronomical groups, probably in more than 20 groups, only once in each group.
3. SE is not blocked by astronomers. Someone despises SE. I have published a course in Astronomy Photography Group, but there are no astronomers in Astronomy Group. Astronomers do not know SE.
4. I haven't copied the tutorials from SE. I have written the tutorials myself and translated the tutorials from SE. There are links to SE in each tutorial.
5. I haven't sent spam to other people, nor have other fans harass others. Anyone can fabricate these unsubstantiated accusations, which are fabricated by emailers.
6. I didn't show off SE developer's email. At that time, I made another MOD called "The Wandering Earth 1.0". I sent the SE developer's email answering my questions to other fans who were interested in my MOD.
7. I never said I was SE official, nor did anyone think I was official.
8. Those who write emails to SE developers are actually depreciating SE, saying that SE is not scientific, that data are wrong, that it is a wallpaper generator, and so on.
9. Those who write emails to SE developers do nothing. They don't write SE tutorials themselves. They don't correct other people's understanding of SE. They keep saying bad things about me without any proof.
10. They scold SE developers, complain that SE developers do not release 0.990, that SE is not scientific, the data are wrong, is a wallpaper generator, I have screenshot records, I have sent the records to SE developers.
11. I know it's not good to send SE tutorials in QQ group. I stopped in January and will not send SE tutorials in the future. I am now writing tutorials on my weibo, zhihu, jianshu.
12. There are SE official links at the end of each of my tutorials.
13. The whole thing, as Jack Dole said, is that the people who emailed the authors saw me unhappy or they hated SE and made up something they didn't have to say to SE developers.
14. Influenced by my basic SE course, there are more and more SE fans in China.
Please review the links between the tutorials I have written and the tutorials I have translated.
weibo
https://weibo.com/p/1005056274830968/we ... nzhangmore
zhihu
https://www.zhihu.com/people/xing-xing-man-bu
jianshu
https://www.jianshu.com/u/fbf135b7d1a7
This is my basic space engine 0.980 tutorial.
https://weibo.com/ttarticle/p/show?id=2 ... 2903529959
I look for a summary of the space engine author interviews and the space engine application domain collection
https://weibo.com/ttarticle/p/show?id=2 ... =zwenzhang
I compiled and summarized the space engine 0.990 new features, new celestial bodies, new parameters and optimization function summary
https://weibo.com/ttarticle/p/show?id=2 ... =zwenzhang
Weibo's Space Engine tutorial forwarded by a blogger with 16.65 million fans
http://www.sohu.com/a/298835437_313378
https://weibo.com/ttarticle/p/show?id=2 ... 9808457533
Space Engine section of a website opened in 2013
https://bbs.deeptimes.net/forum.php?mod ... ay&fid=149
There are many questions about space engine on zhihu. I answered them all.
https://www.zhihu.com/search?type=conte ... e%20engine
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13 Mar 2019 10:33

LBV 2012-26 wrote:
看到论坛上的回复,我想大多数人都没有意识到问题的严重性。某云在QQ群里刷屏最短的记录是刷了2m(也就是把所有的消息截成长图,这个图片将长达2m),直接导致了很多群立下了群规,凡是在群里提到SpaceEngine的,直接飞机+打勾。同时他的恶意传销使得SE的粉丝在短短几天降了一大半,前一段时间的大规模DDOS攻击,就是一些人受到某云的骚扰,忍无可忍做的。目前SE的中国粉丝在急剧下降,所以请不要用这件事开玩笑。而且,他写的教程漏洞百出,后果不用想都知道。


Don't talk nonsense here. The people who attacked SE Forum recently have nothing to do with SE propaganda, nor with the Chinese. There is no evidence that they did it.
I stopped publicizing at the end of January and did not send it to other astronomical QQ groups. Don't talk nonsense in SE forums.
I haven't sent SE tutorials in many QQ groups, and other astronomical groups haven't shielded SE.
You scold the author, you depreciate SE, you say SE is not scientific, you say that SE data are wrong complete chat records, I have sent SE developers.
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13 Mar 2019 11:25

JackDole wrote:
China probably has the largest SpaceEngine fan base in the world.
It is only natural that such unpleasant things occur in such a big fan base.
China has more people than any other country in the world. It is only natural that among so many people there are a few disagreeable contemporaries.

You're right. That's the truth.
I don't know what these people are excited about, why they send e-mails to SE developers, and why they say things without proof.
At first, I sent SE tutorials. In more than 10 astronomical groups, I only sent SE tutorials. Several people said that I would brush the screen, and then I would not send them.
The last one was issued in January this year. I haven't sent it since late January. I know how to write SE tutorials on my micro blog and how to forward my SE tutorials. I don't know what these people are excited about. Still falsely accusing me of plagiarism
SE official website, each of my tutorials has links to the official website, and I have not copied the SE official website tutorials. I always feel that these people are always trying to frame me and prevent SE from becoming popular in China.
Others want to delete the SE tutorials forwarded to me by others. They really don't understand what they think.
Attached is a link to weibo tutorial
https://weibo.com/p/1005056274830968/we ... nzhangmore
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13 Mar 2019 11:32

DoctorOfSpace wrote:
First spam and DDoS and now infringement and misrepresentation.  China playing in the global stage is certainly interesting to watch.

Not long ago, the spam and DDoS on SE's official website had nothing to do with SE propaganda, nothing to do with the Chinese, and very little was known about SE in China.
In addition, the false statement is in the mail above.
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