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04 Feb 2017 04:08

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Source of the post there is no snow in denmark?  its so north!


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Source of the post There is, but very little. Stupid global warming.

Actually, i have an idea that explains why there is not very much snow here in Denmark. When cold weather goes from the Arctic to Denmark, it probably passes through the North Sea, where most of the snowy weather probably goes to the British islands or Norway.
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04 Feb 2017 04:14

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Source of the post Actually, i have an idea that explains why there is not very much snow here in Denmark. When cold weather goes from the Arctic to Denmark, it probably passes through the North Sea, where most of the snowy weather probably goes to the British islands or Norway.

actually i think the british islands suffer from no snow in the recent years too. (exept few mega storms that hitted there like in 2010-2011)
and i know its not only denmark, the netherland also has little amount of snow. lets wait for expert answer!  :)
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04 Feb 2017 04:25

Yeah, let´s wait. If my idea is wrong, i have literally no idea what could cause it.
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04 Feb 2017 06:47

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Source of the post  Any such measurement must be reviewed and demonstrate good methodology before being accepted as an official world record.

Besides good methodology, you must have the same methodology to be able to to comparisons.  Since snow compacts quickly, it matters whether the measurement and cleaning is done daily, three times a day or once a week.  And even if it's done once a day everywhere, even the time of the day might matter.  In any case 29 meters is a lot. :) It's hard to imagine 1 meter of snow that has to be shovelled every week from mid October to mid May.  15 cm a day could be manageable, but if it's rather 1 meter overnight once a week, it would be pretty back breaking.
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04 Feb 2017 06:55

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Actually, i have an idea that explains why there is not very much snow here in Denmark. When cold weather goes from the Arctic to Denmark, it probably passes through the North Sea, where most of the snowy weather probably goes to the British islands or Norway.

Denmark rarely gets large amount of snow because most precipitation comes from moist Atlantic air (SW) which is warm and usually gives rain.  Cold air usually comes from the NW with little precipitation.  Also, Denmark is all low elevation.
The Atlantic Ocean is warm.  It may bring warm air and rain in the middle of the winter as far as 80°N.
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04 Feb 2017 07:01

midtskogen, thanks for the info! but what about my region? why the middle east or countries near the mediterranean sea gets lot amount of snow when its cold enough (polar mass reaching the area. 1-2 times per year for here)
the mediterranean sea is also pretty warm doesnt it? and it's much more south than denmark
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04 Feb 2017 07:06

Thank you midtskogen. I had literally no idea why we don´t have much snow here in Denmark.
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04 Feb 2017 09:06

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Source of the post why the middle east or countries near the mediterranean sea gets lot amount of snow when its cold enough

My guess is that you can have cold, polar air meeting a front with moist air, which can dump a lot of snow.  That can happen in Denmark as well.
Latitude isn't everything.  It can be snowing in Florida while it's raining north of 80°N.  Wind and sea currents matter more.  Shetland's coldest month averages 4°C, and Shetland is situated just north of 60N°, while the Orcadas station's warmest month averages 0°C, and Orcadas is located off the Antarctic peninsula just south of 60°S.
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04 Feb 2017 14:58

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Source of the post Besides good methodology, you must have the same methodology to be able to to comparisons.  Since snow compacts quickly, it matters whether the measurement and cleaning is done daily, three times a day or once a week. 

Yeah, they're done daily (info in the link with the press release).  Detailed information on the official snow measurement procedures can also be found through NOAA, because of course it's important that the same methodology is followed everywhere and that potential sources of error and bias are minimized.  Otherwise it would be very easy to get inconsistent and incomparable data -- measuring snowfall can be very fickle. :)
 
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05 Feb 2017 10:35

The fog finally lifted somewhat today, and had left a thick layer of icing (literally) on the forest.  It may look like snow heaven, but it's mostly almost pure ice weighing down the trees, not so much snow, and truth is that we're having the least snowy winter in almost 30 years in Oslo.  It's February, yet the snow depth today was just 21 cm, in fact less than in early November.  Both December and January were mild and dry.
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05 Feb 2017 11:04

midtskogen,looks beautiful! 21 centimeters is indeed low for the peak of the winter.
midtskogen, do you read and know about 500hpa or 850hpa maps? that what i use to forecast the weather myself.
the european model today showed this:
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it may be snowy here in 9 days if it will really happen (few models still doesnt show it reaching us)
so i may finally have snow here after 2 years of waiting.
i will post images if it will. and it seems it will be more than 20 centimeters if it will reach us. every snowy storm here brings about 20-50 centimeters in average, in the last storm of 2015 i measured 40 centimeters and i think i posted it in the old forum  :D
what i hate about the after-snow weather here is that right after the storm there is warm and sunny days and the snow is all gone after a week even if its more than 30 centimeters on ground. in 2015 it took few days for all the snow to melt and 2 weeks after we had 20c days
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05 Feb 2017 11:31

Spacer, the image didn't make it to the post.  I know those maps, but I don't forecast myself.  Others do that better. :)  But such maps are useful for understanding the weather situation
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05 Feb 2017 18:21

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Source of the post it may be snowy here in 9 days if it will really happen (few models still doesnt show it reaching us)
so i may finally have snow here after 2 years of waiting.

Wow.  I hope you get some. :)  20-50cm for an average storm is a pretty decent snowfall.  Here in the coastal lowlands it's rare for us to get even a few centimeters a couple times in a year, though this winter has been an odd exception.
 
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07 Feb 2017 00:44

Warm Atlantic air gives rain as far as 80°N today.
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10 Feb 2017 10:05

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Source of the post Wow.  I hope you get some.

and again the polar mass will skip us and go north to syria. lebanon and turkey.  :cry:
it could be the most snowy season on record here. so much potential but it always skip again and again this season by like 200km
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